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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
关于性的快感与痛感的另一种解释，利用痛感的刺激来达到颅内高潮的行为艺术确实猎奇，但却缺乏灵与肉的碰撞之美，没有很惊世骇俗。相对来说，我会更喜欢《钛》的病态美。
概念和内涵过于分离，而有些情节又挺俗套的；道具真的满分了
性即手术，解剖即快感，新型进化的展现，却是一场器官血肉交融的狂欢，不仅是身体进行的一场革命，更是人类思维的一场政治战争，渴望顺应变化和旧古思想遵从器官逻辑的人，本质上都在对社会未来作出自己的抉择，柯南伯格依旧有像四十年前般的前卫，最后其实也是一场向社会媒体公众的新导向，有《录像带谋杀案》的味道。但可惜在于，场景和对话全在解释这个世界，显得过于空洞，那些极致的肉体美学让人惊喜，也挽回不了刻意的展现和沉闷的叙事，喜欢却也不太能给出高分，想起当初看柯南伯格老片的惊艳感，或许是能代入到那个年代所突出的独特思维，而本片的设定在这个时代，只能说还可以更加大胆
肉体恐惧上升为肉体崇拜。壳是后期作品（《大都会》《星图》），核是早期作品（《感官游戏》《欲望号快车》《录像带谋杀案》），解刨具像化的 “内在美” ，享受创伤和痛苦带来的快感制造未来的新型性爱和人类。在这个时代还能看到保持自己独有风格的电影实属难得，老爷子再接再厉！
#22#41画面的猎奇和美感更是放大了故事的贫瘠和乏味…要靠要求演员用表达障碍的形式来描绘这未来人的性空虚和性高潮，看的观众那叫一个难受连连。全片撇开Sark装置，给我留下最深印象的居然是美女托头钻电钻…太优雅了
手术是新的性爱，吃塑料是新的反抗，打开自己是老一辈的艺术家。
除了恶心的画面，
boring and pretentious
失掉的而感到遗憾，我们正在那条神奇的单单
分了四次，终于强迫自己看完了，除了解剖满足了我的猎奇兴趣，其他的真是不可理喻，感觉老导演都更注重叙事，但柯南伯格好像反了，除了宣扬他前无古人的审美情趣，剩下的基本上就是故弄玄虚了。因为他搞了个本不清晰的设定，结果自始至终都在写抒情诗，对设定毫无解释又简单直白的呈现，那种神秘感就没了。
So the future belongs to heavy-breathing, lip-licking orgasm fakers who cut flesh only to feel nothing, duh
柯南伯格的影片都好像无历史参照，是奇想隐喻。有点德勒兹欲望机器，再加点福柯的身体政治
在身体改造方面极具艺术性。未来，器官毫无存在的必要，只会滋生细菌，后患无穷。人类与人工合二为一，在保证了生存的同时，突破身体的极限也成为了艺术表达的强有力方式之一。通过米开朗基罗式的重塑，人类探索了更多元的生存可能性。可是所呈现出来的效果过于平淡，不尽人意，最有冲击力的段落竟只是耳朵人跳舞。跟同样讲述突破身体机能的《钛》比起来几乎不是一个量级的，差距有点大。
A desire to be open（想到看性谎言录像带时的那种想被割开的欲望
这样的艺术何尝不是另外一种会被批判的艺术，也许这种艺术对现在的人类来说还为时尚早吧。这样的片子看一遍都是痛苦和煎熬，完全没兴趣去细细品味。
一部很容易被错杀的电影。本片以解剖一个吃塑料的孩子为手段制造悬念，以混乱的极不稳定的基因观念，再次探索获得性遗传的可能性，这层隐喻是我见过的对李森科主义最杀根的嘲讽。这部电影是人类自我探索的一点努力：深入脏器去审美，去探寻新型性爱，去寻找生命的意义，如同深入一字一句去解读一首诗，为此本片找到了行为艺术的手段（我认为也只能借助于此），在混乱的不确定的异化过程中寻找人类未来的确定性。但本片又试图把这些探索纳入“罪行”来加以拷问，并为此而煞有介事地成立了一个执法组织和一个俱乐部，这对矛盾体十分符合人性与人类社会的基本规律，给人以清晰准确的边界感。但这部电影被错杀的原因也是显而易见，道具太差劲，与演员阵容严重不匹配，一部受制于科幻特效的未来伦理片经常会成为难以避免的悲剧。
过分深奥而没有看懂 多看几次再回来吧 V最后一个scene实在是很强 超纲级表演
这片子评分再低在我眼里也是NB的，这片子取名成《感官游戏2.0》更好。
解剖的画面就跟 你说今晚吃炒肝脏一样自然轻易，这也是这部电影的问题，解释太多，我不想知道肝脏是哪头畜生身上的，也不想知道它是怎么摆在我面前的，我只是一个餐桌前的食客，这么坐下来，然后吃。
柯南伯格老师的内心是可太各色了，不好说他到底是会拍还是不会拍，这搁国内不就是坚决自我表达的小文青么
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